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| | My partner has owned both, trading in her '96 monster 600 for a '01 SV (faired) In her opinion the SV handles better, has a sweeter gearbox (i agree) is more reliable (i agree) and is better finished. However, when she talks about her SV she says what a great 'bike' it is and when she talks about her ducati she says what a great 'ducati' it was. She always turns her head if a monster is in the vicinity and has a slight look of regret in her eyes. Point i guess im making is that the SV is the better 'bike' but the monster is more than that. Ducati ownership is a special thing. When the world runs out of petrol you will be able to say you owned a Ducati. Choose with the heart and enjoy the Monster (you know it makes sense!) |
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| i went from a Suzuki gs 500 to Duc 620 ie the difference is night and day. Duc is a much better choice. Plus I like naked crotch rockets. bought i also dropped my Suzuki once and i would never want to do that to a duc.
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| Well this is a good few months after your posting but... A lot of good repies here and a few people with thier heads up thier assess. Bottom line chicks like bikes, 95% of them don't give a rat's ass what you ride. As long as it's shiney and that's the bottom line! I have known some ugly (I mean ugly) guy's get good looking girl's just because they had a bike (Yes they are very shallow, I know). Now for some of these guy's telling you to go with the Ducati for the chick factor? they obviously have never owned a bike and spend far too much time cranking off to the girls on the covers of the sport bike magazines. Shit! just go into a shopping mall with a friends (if you don't own one) motorcycle helmut under your arm if you don't believe me. When some girl comes up and asks you what you ride give her sum bullshit bike that doesn't exist and she will do one of two things. (1) eyes will glaze over and she will have no idea what it is but go along with it and mention her friends boyfriends bike, this is your time to score... (2) she will call your bluff at which point you tell her you have a (? name a real bike) you just dropped it off at the shop and won't have it back for a few days, (that's why you are taking the bus), again this is your time to score. Both cases she never saw the bike but she will be all over you. Yes you lied (you shallow bastard) but you never wanted her to stick around anyway. Now that the advice on girls is over let's get back to bikes... Yes the Ducati is a sweet ride if you can afford it, but the Suzuki is the bike you want. Remember the part I just mentioned about the bike being in the shop? (Ducati need I say more?) The Suzuki is reliable & carries more than enough substance to allow you to hold your head proud. You mentioned affordable, If money was no object then you wouldn't be looking at a Ducati 620 you would be going much bigger. Of that I am certain!. One more little story now that I am remembering my past... When I was 15 not old enough to ride a street bike, I rode a 1985 Honda spree. Most of the girls at school had no interest in me until I took off my helmut, after that girls were no longer a problem (well yes the became a problem). Anyhow It was Christmas eve and I was at a Biker party (And I do mean Biker). There was plenty of snow on the ground and one guy who lived up the street rode down the sidewalks on his Harley with its custom studded tires. I was the youngest there by far. Most of these guy's scared the shit out of me. There was a bunch of us in the living room drinking (yes I was underage), One guy piped up "hey kid what do you ride?" with a laugh and the room went silent. I thought I was going to die a good 16-17 people all looking at me waiting for a reply. Well I swallowed my pride and said "I'm only 15, so all I've got is a little scooter". Well that broke the silence in a hurry. The next thing I know another guy shouted and the room quieted down a little and he bellowed "at least he's on two wheel's" to that glasses and beer bottles went up into the air and it didn't matter that I rode a scooter!. I don't ride a scooter anymore but that night has never left my thoughts. Even when I see someone on a piece of crap bike. I still wave to him/her, if they are stuck on the side of the road I pull over and offer some help. The trew reason we ride is to be on two wheel's, whatever they may be. The fact that girl's like guy's on bikes is a bonus. So don't but something that you cannot afford. You'll need the extra cash for those extra date's you will be going on.
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| Jesus Wyatt, with bullsh*t advice like yours the poor kid will be more confused. Sweet memeories and all but all that talk of carrying a helmet around with you to score ? Strange how you start off by accusing other contributors of being up their ass then proceed to be the worst offender.
Anyone with a passion for bikes know that comparing a ducati with a suzuki is no comparison. Ducati's have character and soul and style and are also great fun to ride with an exhuast note to die for, that bring a smile to your face each time you start her up. The SV is a budget banger with no soul and sounds as passionate as a washing machine with the standard pipe fitted. Also the front forts are too soft and front brakes wooden with no feel.
Dewayne, ignore this guy and purchase the Ducati, you will NEVER EVER regret it, i promise.
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| I have in my garage, a 2002 SV650 and a 2002 Monster 620i.e. They are similar in many respects, and very different in others. I'll start with the differences. The Monster feels much smaller, with a shorter reach to the ground. In fact, the SV is surprisingly tall. The bars on the Monster are lower and broader. That gives a sportier seating position with great leverage for cornering. The SV has much narrower, higher bars for a very standard seating position. When moving the bikes around the garage, putting them on rear stand, parking, etc. the Monster feels far lighter than the SV (not that the SV is heavy). The front forks on the SV are far too soft, and provide very little feedback under hard braking. The Monster is taut and composed, giving great feedback and flicking in easily.
Sounds like the Monster just wins every category, huh? There are a few things in the SV's favor. The SV has much better ground clearance. The Monster touches its exhaust cans down at moderate lean angles, the SV doesn't. The SV's motor produces far more power at the peak of its rpm range, and equal torque at low and mid rpms to the Duc's 2 valve motor. The SV just runs away on the straightaways. So far, it costs 50% more to have the Monster serviced. Also, it blows oil from its crankcase vent, getting the rear half of the bike quite messy. The SV doesn't need a valve adjustment for something ridiculous like 32k miles.
In the end, my final advice is this: Don't get either of these bikes as a first bike. Get a GS500E. But if you're not going to listen to reason, buy the bike you WANT more.
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| DeWayne,
A GS500E, no no no and no. Along with the Kawasaki ER5 the only thing they are good for is learning on and passing you test. After that forget it. Dated in every respect. Why go thru the hassle of passing your test and then go out and buy one of these old things. The absolute minimum I would say to go for as a first bike would be a Suzuki Bandit 600. Any lower than that and you will be bored so quickly and regret it so bad. Go and get yourself a 3 year monster 600 and have FUN. |
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| DeWayne,
Did you buy a bike yet? Regardless, I know there are others reading these posts and debating the M620 v. SV650 issue. I have the Monster 620 and let me give everyone my 2 cents. Determining which bike you will be happier with depends on your personality. For example, are you the type of person that would buy a Honda Accord? It makes sense, right? Great car, great reliability, great price, etc. Or, do you spend a few more grand and get the Acura because it has more style? Are you the kind of guy who uses Uniball pens? They make sense, right? Great pen, smooth flowing, works great, etc. Or, do you spend a couple hundred on a Montblanc because it has style? If you said buy the Acura and only sign your name using a Montblanc, get the Monster. The Monster has style. If you decided you are a practical type person and more happy with the Honda and Uniball pen, get the SV650. This really is a no brainer decision. |
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| DeWayne, I have a monster 620 and absolutely love it. This is my fifth bike, but the others were dirtbikes. I am a member of our local DFW ducati owners club and try to ride with them as much as possible. Handling in the twisties on the monster is amazing! I have no problem tailing the duc superbikes in 100mph corners. Two of my friends have sv's, when we ride together they do all the wheelies and I lead the rides. Just last week one of them rounded a corner I had just taken at 100+ easily, then he got in to a push and lost it to a tree. Handling is better on the monster, take it from an sv rider. Soul is another thing already mentioned in this thread that must be restated. The Ducati music (though not as musical with wet clutch) is invigorating, I catch myself getting excited enough to yell periodically. Comments and questions about the Ducati never cease, makes you feel like a legend. Get the monster. Join our club. Jeff Nash, (Ducati SBK racer, Daytona, Pro Thunder champion 2000or2001) owns a shop called AMS in the Alvarado area. He is a collector, has bayliss and foggy winners along with old 750s,888,851,supermonos etc. at his shop/museum/dealership. Go visit him and get a feeling for the ducati heritage of winning. He also got me a great deal on my monster. 817-790-0200
Let me know if you have any questions--ducatimonster@ev1.net
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