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Author Message don.smale939629 Posted 6/22/2008 9:31:46 AM Forum Newbie Group: Forum Members Last Login: Today @ 12:04:32 PM Posts: 4, Visits: 4 I havent riden for about 20 years and the largest bike ive had was a 550 Katana. Looking at 1100 Sabre or a 1300 VTX. Both are gorgeous bikes. Now my questions. Wife will be with me alot and im a little concerned over the weight of the bike. Should i be? As well, i have developed a case of carpel tunnel and am worried about the vibrations through the handle bars. Any one else have the same problem. Would like to hear any advice anyone might have before i purchase bike. Thanks. Post #172434 Morg - KW Posted 6/23/2008 12:10:05 PM Supreme Being Group: Forum Members Last Login: 12/30/2009 3:35:39 PM Posts: 167, Visits: 239 I havent riden for about 20 years and the largest bike ive had was a 550 Katana. Looking at 1100 Sabre or a 1300 VTX. Both are gorgeous bikes. Now my questions. Wife will be with me alot and im a little concerned over the weight of the bike. Should i be? As well, i have developed a case of carpel tunnel and am worried about the vibrations through the handle bars. Any one else have the same problem. Would like to hear any advice anyone might have before i purchase bike. Thanks. First of all, with either bike you mentioned, it will be only a very short while before you (or your wife) realize the need to get a sissy bar & back rest for her. Do you homework and research carefully each of these 2 bikes to be sure one of them will suit your needs. They're both nice, but certainly different. The VTX is considerably heavier and won't handle nearly as well as the Sabre in slow speed maneuvering. On the highway, they're both good, but the VTX is obviously better. Depending upon where and how you expect to be riding, the fact that both of these bikes have carbs, rather than fuel inj, it may not pose a problem. What I'm about to say is unfarely stated since I don't really know enough to make this assumption, but based solely on what you have mentioned, it seems that the Sabre would "possibly" be the better choice for you. Just a thought....don't discount altogether the Kawi 900LT, an excellent liquid cooled and fuel inj bike that comes with a windshield, sissy bar, saddlebags and a much larger gas tank, all for the same price as the Sabre. It's a super mid-size cruiser, especially for riding 2-up. Good luck. Morg - Key West Post #172445 don.smale939629 Posted 6/23/2008 12:44:51 PM Forum Newbie Group: Forum Members Last Login: Today @ 12:04:32 PM Posts: 4, Visits: 4 Thanks for the info, i will look into it. Post #172448 « Prev Topic | Next Topic » Reading This Topic Active Users: 0 (0 guests, 0 members, 0 anonymous members) No members currently viewing this topic. Forum Moderators: Forum Moderator Permissions You cannot post new topics. You cannot post topic replies. 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570  |------ Polaris  |-------- FS IQ Touring  |-------- FST IQ Touring  |-------- 340  |-------- 340 Touring  |-------- Wide Trak  |-------- FST IQ Cruiser  |-------- 340 Classic  |-------- 340 Edge Touring  |-------- 500 Classic  |-------- 550 Classic  |-------- 600 Classic  |-------- 600 Switchback  |-------- 700 Classic  |-------- 800 Switchback  |-------- 900 Switchback  |-------- FST Switchback  |-------- Indy 340  |-------- Indy 500  |-------- Indy 600  |-------- Super Sport  |-------- Trail Touring  |-------- Other  |-------- Dragon Switchback  |-------- Switchback  |-------- Turbo Switchback  |-------- IQ Touring  |-------- Transport  |-------- LX  |-------- IQ LXT  |------ Ski-Doo  |-------- Skandic SWT  |-------- Legend Trail  |-------- MX Z Adrenaline 800  |-------- GTX Limited 2-TEC 600  |-------- Legend Touring  |-------- MX Z Adrenaline 700  |-------- Skandic LT  |-------- Expedition Sport  |-------- Expedition TUV  |-------- Grand Touring  |-------- GTX Fan 380  |-------- GTX Limited 800 HO  |-------- GTX Sport 2-TEC 600 HO  |-------- GTX Sport 500 SS  |-------- Legend Fan 380  |-------- Legend Fan 550  |-------- Legend GT SE  |-------- Legend GT Sport  |-------- Legend SE  |-------- Legend Sport  |-------- MX Z Fan 380  |-------- MX Z Trail   |-------- MX Z Renegade 800  |-------- Skandic SUV  |-------- Skandic Tundra   |-------- Skandic SWT  |-------- Skandic WT   |-------- GTX Fan 550  |-------- Other  |-------- GTX LE  |------ Yamaha  |-------- Venture Lite  |-------- Apex ER  |-------- Apex GT  |-------- Apex RTX  |-------- Attak  |-------- Nytro  |-------- Phazer  |-------- RS Rage  |-------- RS Vector  |-------- RS Venture  |-------- SX Venom  |-------- SX Viper  |-------- Venture  |-------- VK 540 III  |-------- VK Professional  |-------- Vmax  |-------- Other  |-------- Crossover  |-------- Apex XTX  |-------- Apex  |-------- Apex SE  |------ Other  |---- Youth  |------ Polaris  |-------- 120  |-------- Other  |------ Ski-Doo  |-------- Mini Z  |-------- Other  |------ Other  |---- Other  |-- Watercraft  |---- 1 Person  |------ Kawasaki  |-------- SX-R  |------ Sea-Doo  |-------- 3D  |-------- Other  |------ Yamaha  |-------- Super Jet  |-------- Other  |------ Other  |---- 2 Person  |------ Kawasaki  |-------- Ultra  |------ Honda  |-------- AquaTrax R-12  |-------- AquaTrax R-12X  |-------- Other  |-------- AquaTrax F-15  |------ Sea-Doo  |-------- RX  |-------- RXP  |-------- XP  |-------- Other  |------ Yamaha  |-------- GP  |-------- Other  |------ Other  |---- 3 Person  |------ Kawasaki  |-------- STX  |-------- Ultra  |------ Honda  |-------- AquaTrax F-12  |-------- AquaTrax F-12X  |-------- Other  |-------- AquaTrax F-15X  |-------- AquaTrax F-15  |------ Sea-Doo  |-------- GTI  |-------- GTX  |-------- RXT  |-------- Wake  |-------- Other  |------ Yamaha  |-------- FX  |-------- VX  |-------- XL  |-------- Other  |------ Other  |---- 4 Person  |------ Sea-Doo  |-------- Other  |------ 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