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Author Message mtaylor419781550 Posted 9/2/2007 8:16:33 AM Forum Newbie Group: Forum Members Last Login: 3/6/2008 8:01:50 PM Posts: 7, Visits: 27 I've been riding for a little while on smaller bike (750 Honda) with wife as we both went through MSF class and got our license. I am now looking to upgrade for my own bike. I'd love some rider opinions as I'm seriously torn. My options: Kingpin - reliable and stable bike, but I'm not thrilled over the full fenders. Jackpot / Hammer - love the look but heard the small front tire (JP) makes for difficult riding and the deep V handlebars make turning a chore. Can the Hammer S bars be put on these as I've heard those are easier turning? Or a off model - Suzuki M109R. Basically... looking for that sporty cruiser that can ride 2-up comfortably but not be part of the Harley look-a-like scene. These are the only models that have truly caught my eye. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Mike. Texas.. Post #168954 ja70cad Posted 10/2/2007 12:40:01 AM Forum Newbie Group: Forum Members Last Login: 10/3/2007 2:19:47 PM Posts: 1, Visits: 6 No such turning problems with the V-bars on the Hammer (but to answer your question, yes they do interchange). I would say that depending on your definition of riding "two-up" (occasional trip with the wife vs something like touring the country) will determine what model would best suit you. If your gonna be taking long trips regularly, then go with the Kingpin. Otherwise, any of the other bikes will do the job. The Hammer is a bit more stable than the JP or Vegas but it's not all that noticeable. I've ridden both platforms extensively and wouldn't hesitate to take a long ride with the fiancee on the Vegas. Also, I know they make some comfy touring seats for all these bikes, which would be something your going to definitely have to invest in! I can't really speak for the M109 as far as accessories go, other than it's one fast bike! Whatever you decide, have fun and be safe! Juan PS. Go with a Vic, you won't regret it!! Post #169364 « Prev Topic | Next Topic » Reading This Topic Active Users: 0 (0 guests, 0 members, 0 anonymous members) No members currently viewing this topic. Forum Moderators: Forum Moderator Permissions You cannot post new topics. You cannot post topic replies. You cannot post new polls. You cannot post replies to polls. You cannot edit your own topics. You cannot delete your own topics. You cannot edit other topics. You cannot delete other topics. You cannot edit your own posts. You cannot edit other posts. You cannot delete your own posts. You cannot delete other posts. You cannot post events. You cannot edit your own events. You cannot edit other events. You cannot delete your own events. You cannot delete other events. You may send private messages. You cannot send emails. You may read topics. You cannot rate topics. You cannot vote within polls. You cannot upload attachments. 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